June 19, 2013
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Making a Serious Change
Xanga is switching from being a free blogging ad-revenue model to a pay to blog model.
I've talked ad nauseum about this change, but let's discuss more about how this can actually help Xanga for the future, shall we?
Many have shared that it could destroy the community we have here. With any major transition like this, any online community going through this type of change would need to adjust, not just our community here on Xanga.
Let's be honest with ourselves first. The reality is Xanga is already a shell of it's former self. We don't have 30 million plus users anymore, and we haven't in quite some time.
So, we're relaunching. We're taking what we do have that's left, and moving what we can to the new platform. Either that, or shut down.
So the question on that note is: "do we just walk away after all these years, or look at this as an opportunity to see what we can do to make things better than it was before?"
We have to set the ground work to make sure that Xanga 2.0 happens first, then we can look at opening things up. This does include some level of free blogging... please take note...
The great news is that we have an opportunity to work with TheXangaTeam to make Xanga 2.0 a success.
Xanga team has always wanted our input. Have you looked at the ideas pages at all? http://www.xanga.com/ideas
They started doing this many years ago - but to implement our ideas has always been a challenge due to the limitations of the current platform.
If you go through these ideas, most of them will become available with Xanga 2.0.
With the initial change over, everyone's account information will migrated over. So our login's, passwords, ability to comment and subscribe... everyone will be able to do this.
However, only premium/lifetime members and those who have contributed and received rewards from contributing will have their blogs migrated over.
So not everyone's blogs will be migrated over. That's ok. Seriously, it is. Just archive your blogs and download them for safekeeping. You should do this anyways.
Once the change over happens, then we can look at marketing options, which I'm sure at least a free trial option is placed out there on the table for further discussion.
What has already been shared is that those Xangans who want to work as volunteers will also be rewarded with free blogging as well. So the more active you are in the community, the more you are rewarded.
Also, did anyone catch on to the fact that as you get involved and active [as a volunteer] you will get rewarded in a way that you can bless others with free blogging?
Think about that and let it simmer for a bit. (some folks could be blessed with free blogging from their xanga friends after the change over.... got it yet?)
Paying to blog would just help stabilize Xanga's revenue stream, and ensure a stronger financial future for Xanga.com's growth as we all move forward. I wouldn't be surprised if there would be some level of advertising on the main page (and highlighted articles) as a supplementary income.
Paying to blog, as I see it, is not a big deal after all - when you look at how Xangateam is going to be implementing it.
Besides, as @cakalusa shared in this post - it's only $0.13 a day. :) - http://cakalusa.xanga.com/773953304/help-feed-xanga/
Let's work together - #WeAreXanga
Join the movement - contribute to the cause - https://xanga.crowdhoster.com/relaunch-xanga
Comments (43)
I like that part about gifting others with free blogging. There are a few people that can't afford this or don't blog often enough to justify this. I have no idea what 2.0 will look like or who will be left. I'll be there and hopefully we will be able to rebuild a larger community to better support this site.
I'm still torn..
I don't know what will happen to my blogs when Xanga has it's last hurrah .. Many people are migrating over to WordPress together, to see how that works out so we have options when it comes to decision making.
I've done the same, created a WordPress with the basics for the start of a decent blogger account..
And now we wait..
The way I see it; maybe this is a chance for us to meet new people?
@CharleiMaria - regular wordpress won't have what Xanga 2.0 will. That being said, it is good to get familiar with wordpress. I would suggest that you'd contribute - if you're able to. Spread the word to encourage others to get involved. Archive and download your blog - which we all should do anyways - and then see what happens.
When 2.0 launches, then see how you can get involved. Your account will migrate over, so you'll be able to comment and subscribe. :) Just my suggestions.
@edlives - Yeah, I think we all need to accept the fact that change IS coming and we're going to have to deal with it if we want to keep this community alive.
I've pledged the most that I can, but as a student with a strict budget; it's difficult to make ends meet as it is.
I've archived and downloaded everything from every Xanga blog i've ever had.. Just in case.
I do hope that we can somehow keep Xanga going.. But; maybe a fresh start is the best way for all of us.
The one question I keep asking myself is; where is the donated money actually going to go? And are Xanga going to keep their promises to us?
The idea of a pay-to-blog site, even one with the whiz-bang add-ons that the Xanga team keeps talking about, doesn't jive with me. I run another blogging site where I have to pay, but that's for my domain name and hosting, and paying for that was 1. optional, and 2. half of what Xanga's asking for 2.0. Beyond a philosophical level, I'm not sure how successful a pay-to-blog site is going to be at recruiting new membership, especially at a relatively high asking price.
Bro, I sure wish I had someone like you on the team at my site! Like some others, I kind of felt a nudge into a new direction when I read the Xanga Team's entry about the upcoming changes here, but I'll tell ya what: With loyal community members like you here, failure is almost unthinkable. Keep up the good work, and sincerely, best of luck to you and all the people joining in the struggle with you. Xanga has been a blessing to me, and the few opportunities I had to talk with you were a pleasure and a privilege. Peace to you and yours
It seems like donations have stagnated. It's sad. I don't have the same hope I did when we first started.
I am a lifetime member---I paid $100 or it, so I guess I will migrate over, but sill have to pay the $48 a years which is OK for me. I will buy one of those Visa type cards at a Drug store and pay for my pledge that way.
I love Xanga--it is not hot now, but maybe it can have a good mid-life expereince.
Thanks for doing this.
frank
The value just isn't there. I'm sorry. I love Xanga, and will be sad to see it go. I've made my pledges, and I've planned on hopping over to the new site (assuming they raise the money, which no longer seems viable at this point), but I just can't see the "community" being sustainable.
They aren't doing anything plausible to justify our spending this amount of money, other than harping on "the community" which is entirely us to begin with, nothing of their doing. We can take our "community" any number of other places, for free, so that's not something to justify paying Xanga for.
Nothing we can get, or keep with the new Xanga is worth fifty bucks a year. I know it's "only $0.13 a day" but there are so many of us who are college students, retirees, people with families, etc... who just can't scrape up fifty bucks at any one time to pay it. Thirteen cents a day is a great number as an average goes, but unless you're going to come drop by our houses every day to collect it, there are just too many of us that can't put it all together at once.
Which means, so far, the new "community" is only going to be about 500 people (figuring that there are 300 some-odd donors, and some of those donors will be gifting blogs to friends).
Beyond that, I'm sorry, but the Xanga Team is failing. I know they're "busy" working to make the changeover, and apparently there are some personal problems (sounds like a weak excuse, in my opinion) but the blog update that was written TWO WEEKS after they dumped this on us (and subsequently disappeared) couldn't have taken more than ten or fifteen minutes to write. If you want to run a business, that means you have to sacrifice time and interact with your customers... they ARE your business. I'm sorry, but one blog in three weeks after the breaking of the news just doesn't inspire any confidence in me that they will be putting any effort in to growing the new site, improving it, etc. If they were so damned busy, then why couldn't they officially announce someone who would be their spokesperson on this, who had access to them, and us as well? You and MXYLDove have basically done this voluntarily, but if they had time to suggest that we, as users, volunteer our time to the new Xanga, then they could have taken the time to volunteer theirs to one person, a moderator of sorts...officially.
There has yet to be an argument that justifies paying $48 a year to save a company that has only failed through poor management, and insufficient business ability.
Sorry, can't support the cause, and this blog doesn't help change that.
Last time I looked, they were only about halfway there. I don't know that you can really convert that many people at this point. The best hope is that everyone who have already given go ahead and gives as much again. I'll do it.
@CharleiMaria - The fundraising money is going to the upgrades - new facility/servers/equipment, and to get some programmers - as they've shared on their fundraising page.
@DarklyLitWords - I understand your perspective. Xanga is utilizing wordpress as the new platform, rather than their own proprietary program.
WordPress premium costs $30 per month. Ad onto that the extra plugins and bundle packages, for starters, and that's another $99 per year. So cost was we'd blog for much less than having our own premium site with bells and wistles, and on top of that have the community aspect of what Xanga is about.
@AOK4WAY - Thanks for your kind words. What's the URL of your site?
@sonnigenmai - slowed down, yes, but not stopped. We've actually gained 20 new backers in less than two days.
@HUMOR_ME_NOW - glad to be of service, Frank.
@Ghillies_guide - We all have different perspectives, thanks for listening to mine.
@RakkaRay - Thank you.
@edlives - Thank you for asking Ed, you're a scholar and a gentleman
I hope everyone who'd like to keep up with my informal bible studies and topical essays (or maybe even contribute a few of their own) will visit me at http://www.Aok4way.com. As I migrate more of my time and effort in that direction, I'll be adding functionality for membership with blogging, christian fellowship, comments and more. Writers who wish to contribute appropriate content sooner can contact me via the form at the site or message me here until zero day; content can be submitted via email and I'll upload it until those improvements are rolled out.
Peace my man. Thanks again
Guy, do the realities of the internet escape your limited intellect? WHY WOULD ANYONE PAY TO BLOG AT XANGA WHEN THEY CAN DO IT ELSEWHERE FOR FREE? Huge 'duh?' on your part.
What is it with your dumb Americans? When people are offered a good service for free, they will jump on it. When they are asked to pay for a service they could get elsewhere for free, they will simply point, laugh, then leave. Are you all really this stupid or are you all attempting to troll me? WTF?
I would suggest 'brain fried' is a PERFECT name for this particular blog. What a moron.
Pay money to join or work as a slave laborer. Sounds like Scientology.
The Xanga Team has chosen a lose-lose path. Their first option is to flat out shut down while the other is to basically create a private club of 300 paying bloggers. Xanga 2 will essentially purge all the members of the "community" that didn't pay (which will be 99% of them) and go on a trajectory of zero growth because they will not attract anyone that has Tumblr as a free alternative. The Xanga Team will erase their past and doom their future at the same time with their plan.
@Ghillies_guide - Which is exactly what I've been trying to tell people. Glad to know I'm not the only one who sees the writing on the wall. Xanga just hasn't been worth a dime for the last four years or so unfortunately.
@CanuckFascist - Thanks for the kudos on the name of my blog.
I agree, many have issues when it comes to actually paying for something.
@Celestial_Teapot - That's one way to look at it, but I disagree at the analogy. If we want an ad-free space with longevity - then Xanga has to change their business model.
@coolmonkey - @bloggicus_maximus - Ok guys. You both are great at criticizing what is going on, I give you that. Perspectives differ, to that I will agree to disagree. I will challenge you to come up with a solution - rather than pointing at 'potential' problems.
Working in the environment I do, I never go to my client - or boss - and say "here's all the problems with what you are doing" and provide no solution.
So, what is your solution. What can Xanga Team do to resolve what you are providing as problems?
If you're unable to provide a cohesive plan - then why are you staying around? why haven't you moved on? What makes you stay?
The reality is two-fold:1 - Xanga's use of the ad-revenue based model is NOT working. This is the model that has provided us a free blogging platform.2 - Xanga's current platfrom is unable to provide it's users with what they've been wanting for many years.
Now - provide a practical set of solutions to address each challenge that has been presented. With your talent and knowledge - I'm sure you can come up with something.
I look forward to reading what you may be able to provide.
@edlives - There are 2 solutions I can think of:
1) Xanga has a brand problem. It needs to rename itself because the name "Xanga" carries a stigma. When people think of Xanga, they think of high school and outdated-ness. The ad based model isn't failing, it's the fact that traffic is declining. That means the site is no longer popular. Charging people money and staying the course is not going fix this fundamental problem. There needs to be a new branding push and a marketing campaign to match.
2) In this day and age, you cannot charge people for something they can get for free (unless it's bottled water). There are simply too many other free alternative blog sites, and you can already see many people fleeing to them. Xanga needs serious big money, and it needs to come from corporate sponsors or deep-pocketed investors. Nickle and diming the users will not get the job done. And as much as $60,000 is, it's only enough to keep it on life support, and won't fund a re-branding campaign.
@coolmonkey - good ideas.
Let's discuss what you are sharing as possible solutions. This is just a discussion with my opinions... but let's dive in...
To address the first problem of branding - I completely agree. I do think it will take the community to assist in this issue, would you agree? If we as a community don't welcome newcomers, then why would they want to stay? If we treat newcomers as a community with an improper attitude, why would they want to stay?
I think we both agree that we as a community didn't help in that area in the past, but as we move forward, we can change things. It will take all involved to address the branding issue. I concur with your statement on the issue of Branding, and I think we will be in the midst of a rebranding for some time.
Traffic isn't just declining due to community issues, but also the functionality of what people are getting for free. Xanga 1.0 is based on old web technology. It is not flexible. There are a few popular youtubers who were extremely popular on Xanga, but because the platform didnt' provide the service, they had to move elsewhere. This has been happening for several years.
Ad revenue depends upon traffic, and not just any traffic - but quality traffic. With popular sites also comes spammers and sploggers. This issue alone just about shut down Autisable in terms of slowing down it's load time and people being able to register. Ad revenue that pays bills also depends upon how well each blog is consistent with it's topic. With new SEO and various google updates, ad servers like google adsense view blogs as much less valuable than before. The only way for bloggers to earn substantial income/revenue is to be consistent on one topic - so the relevant ads can be applied.
In regards to ad revenue (ads vs click-thru's) to really garner revenue to pay the bills of several employees and servers, etc... you have to have a lot of popularity and traffic. Add onto the fact many people are utilizing plugins on their browsers to remove ads altogether... and that trend is increasing.
Advertisers are being very particular on what sites they will purchase ads for. If a site doesn't have the audience or demographic they are looking for - they will not by the big ticket ad units that are being offered. They will go where the big popular sites are, as that's where they can find the ROI.
Xanga has only been paying any bills by google adsense and other supplementary ad options they could find over the years to accommodate for the free blogging model. But, advertisers aren't biting.
so, as a solution to help stabilize their revenue, Xanga is changing from a free blog platform, to a blog hosting platform.
ok, that's my initial thoughts to your first possible solution.
However it leads me to #2 -
Even free blogging platforms have a serious upgrade option, which averages out to anywhere from $10 to $50 per month. Cost per value is competitive, in some of my calculations, it's a good deal for those who want to do some serious blogging.
The fundraiser is just for the upgrade and get Xanga relaunched. The monthly cost they are asking is competitive to other blog hosting sites that are currently on the market.
There will be opportunities for people to blog for free. We have to first get moved to the new platform and get settled before a free option can be discussed again.
I do know that a free trial option like HULU or Netflix is on the table, along with a lot of other marketing ideas to get Xanga back on the map. For now we have to get Xanga upgraded before we can move forward with a complete rebranding.
Good insight, and again, I do agree with a rebranding campaign - but i don't think the rebranding will cost a lot of money - but it will take a lot of work on all our parts.
@edlives - Another thing that needs to change is the Xanga Team's communication. A rebranding campaign should have started years ago when the site started declining. If they are asking for money, they need to redeem themselves for the years of neglect (or at least that's what it seems). They've made a bad impression of themselves for a lot of users, and I don't know if that can be rectified by July 15.
@coolmonkey - I agree that improved communication needs to happen. I do, however, see improvements in that area. Hopefully we'll see more in the weeks ahead.
Joel, all I ask at this point are some screenshots of the new system underway. I know they can be faked (I sure hope they're not).
But even when I was working on S2, I always updated my members with screenshots, some stuff they could understand, like runtime production for items they requested, while others, maybe more technical, some couldn't understand, like source-code snippets and data and layout tables.
However they were direct screenshots from my computer each time - showing that I was indeed being a busy boy and working at getting it completed and not just writing or airing promises I couldn't keep. And I did finish it ultimately to everyone's satisfaction, fully usable, with installer, ready to rock.
And I was JUST an individual penning the whole thing down as a Freeware project. I think we should expect more from a commercial company that wants our money - if I as a single person could keep my 200+ members informed in Geocities with daily and weekly screenshots of that project as well as usable and downloadable beta engines - they sure as heck can for this one too.
@edlives - If I had the time, I would have already done that. However, most of what coolmonkey said is pretty much what needs to happen, as well as driving venture capital in an over saturated and extremely competitive industry. They also need to hire people who have experience running a viable social media site, which is not something xanga has been for the last four plus years.
They have not proven that they know what they're doing over the last few years. Even if I did post a business plan, I'm of the opinion that it'd simply fall on deaf ears like most of the ideas on that very obsolete ideas page.
And seriously, why the hell don't they have a working alpha build? That's business 101, you don't beg for cash until you have something to show.
Edit: You know why advertisers don't bite on xanga? Two reasons: No return on investment, and consistently declining traffic. Give me one good reason to bite on a paid model run by the same morons who drove xanga into the ground the first time around. And don't give me that community crap. It's been in decline the last four years. Attrition will hit again, and then what? Another plea for cash?
@dw817 - If you're expecting them to know how to run something effectively...you're out of luck unfortunately. They have no plan. It's all been 'give us money and we'll wing it!'
@dw817 - We should be expecting some things soon, as per their latest update.
@bloggicus_maximus - I'm rather disappointed in your response. I don't hear of a solution, other than what coolmonkey shared. c'mon, man, you're better than that. Given what is currently presented, what practical advice would you provide that would improve the current situation? You've provided some very insightful critique's of thexangateam and current events, but where is your solution. What would you do?
@edlives - I don't have the time to sit down and put together a business plan. If I did, I would have already posted it. For starters, though, I'd clean house and bring in people who know what they're doing and have proven it already in the social media industry over the last few years.
@bloggicus_maximus -
I didn't ask you to write a business plan, and we don't own Xanga. I'm asking you again to provide practical solutions to these issues from where Xanga is today.
@edlives - And I'm telling you again that I don't currently have the time to post something. To start though, I'd have already put out a working build BEFORE I begged for cash, which is something you learn in any entry level business course. Xanga needs to clean house, to bring in people with proven experience in the social media industry in 2013. A decent marketing run would help, but at this point it's far too late for that to have any effect.
Xanga is a relic, an obscure dinosaur overtaken by the evolution of social media that left it in the dust. Livejournal tried the same plan xanga is going with two years ago. And it didn't work for them. (PS: Xanga has never had the large membership you think it did. Livejournal, MySpace, et al were much, much more massive. MySpace is a special case though, because it took Justin Timberlake to rebrand it. And even then it's not working out too well.)
Maybe this weekend I'll have the time to indulge you.
@bloggicus_maximus - Only one note here: "to bring in people with proven experience in the social media industry" - they are.
For the rest, great insight. Thank you.
@edlives - They're also people who ran a social media site into the ground. Not at all who I'd choose in 2013. I'd pick someone with a strong track record out of Facebook, twitter, tumblr, instagram, etc. The leadership of Xanga just doesn't hack it in this era of social media, sorry.
@edlives - Just an observation... your analogy of client/boss is perfect. Absolutely perfect.
How? Well, you don't go to your client or boss with what's wrong, but Xanga isn't our client or boss. Clients and bosses pay their employees. Xanga is asking us to pay them.
Ergo, Xanga should be coming to us, their "clients" or "bosses" with solutions, not the other way around.
@bloggicus_maximus - At the end of the day, it boils down to this...
The Xanga Team has managed their company to the point where they have no other option than to beg for a huge influx of cash,
(they knew when their lease would end, they didn't find out about it six weeks prior to that date-which is when they told us about it, and they made no tangible effort to provide a working mockup of what the "new" Xanga would be like to give us something to believe in when they did ask us for money)
...To ask for that cash with a limited time frame
(I think because they hoped the "panic" reaction was their only plausible hope to raise that cash)
...and to shut down if they don't receive that investment. It's a strong arm tactic, ultimately. "Pay us or we're gone."
Ever watch the show Shark Tank? It's the one with Mark Cuban and a few other investors, where business owners attempt to receive investment money. Who wants to bet me that none of them would give anything more than a scathing laugh to the Xanga Team with this presentation?
EVEN IF the money was to be raised to keep Xanga going exactly like it is now I have absolutely nothing to use as a base to trust that my investment will be worthwhile. Past performance is a good indicator of future ability.
@edlives - we all know you love Autisable, (and we know that you've got your own financial investment from the place) but the truth is they've failed at maintaining the company, and they've not given us any tangible way to trust them with future support. I'm sure you're tired of hearing dissenting views, but with respect that's part of what you've opened yourself up to when you volunteered to be a spokesperson, of sorts. What you're doing, effectively, is asking people to spend their hard earned money on something that isn't a worthwhile investment, and just as you believe strongly that it's something you want to save, some of us believe strongly that asking people to spend money on this is not only ludicrous, but asinine. Asking for money from people without being real about how it's just not likely to last very long is unethical. If this were a charity drive for a medical need, etc., then an empassioned plea would be enough, the return would be enough, but you're asking for money from people and ultimately shrugging off the fact that it's a stupid investment, with no more than a "but it's only 13 cents a day" justification.
Take umbrage at my comment if you will, but I take umbrage at what you're attempting to do... perhaps so you can sell a few more shirts?
Get Xanga to actually be present, daily, to show us they're fighting for this just as much as we are... show us they're not the unaccountable hacks they've looked like for more than a year now, have them come up with other options, or explain to us what options they've considered and why they've ruled them out. Short of that, anyone in their right mind would be a fool to support this company even one second longer.
Especially when the best they can come up with is "Well, why don't you (our customer base) tell us what we should do instead."
@Ghillies_guide - I don't mind dissenting views, in fact I learn from them. What I get frustrated about is dissenting views that don't provide practical ideas for improvement.
In regards to the boss/employee analogy, thank you. But the analogy can be used not just from employee to boss, but also from friend to friend. I wouldn't present a problem to a friend, without having some type of solution.. or at least an explanation why I think what they are doing is a problem. In short, constructive criticism is to be constructive. To build - rather than to destroy.
If you've read what I receive from Autisable, you'll realize it isn't about the money. The reality is that ad-revenue based blogging platforms don't make a lot of money... not enough to have a long sustaining life span. Autisable has impacted thousands of people's lives in a very positive way. The upgrades that Xanga is doing with 2.0 - will be rolled into Autisable - and I want to see that happen. There are hundreds of families dealing with Autism that blog about their journey, and many also sell products. 2.0 will allow for this to happen... but more on that in a moment.
Some have argued that Xanga was mismanaged, I disagree. Xanga has been around for 14 years. It has done very well for a platform that hasn't been substantially upgraded during that time. One of the founding members of Xanga moved on and developed twitter. Many of the concepts that this web 2.0 site has developed are now commonplace in social networks worldwide. It was a platform that used to be ahead of its time.
Xangateam tried their best to keep the current business model, to keep Xanga a free blogging community with ad based revenue compensating them for what is needed to run the site. 14 years is a fantastic run for a site that hasn't been upgraded too much. However, a change had to be made - in fact, it was inevitable that some changes needed to be made.
If you were in their shoes, where you poured your heart and soul into a project, wouldn't you try to keep it going for as long as possible? To say they mismanaged it is truly not understanding what they've done to keep it going as long as they have. Hindsight in many instances is 20/20.
Now I would agree that how they went about dealing with this upgrade and fundraising could have been handled better, but I'm not them - and I leave my criticism in discussions with them. I praise them in public, but discuss matters that I disagree with them on in private.
I deal in analysis, and look at return on investments everyday. The major change on what they are doing is as subtle in the wording of what they are going to do.
While I understand your viewpoint, I disagree. And that's ok. I really appreciate your feedback. In fact it's very insightful and prompts me to respond with what I hope are constructive ideas.
I'm curious if you've had the opportunity to listen to my radio show from Theroadlesstaken, where I talk about what is going on, and the future of Xanga.
What xanga has provided very clearly for us is a vision.
The standard model for many websites is for the company to take lead and do all the development, etc..
Xanga wants to do something a bit different. They want our involvement. They want us to help develop Xanga. We are the ones on the front lines of blogging, and with these upgrades, they will have the tools to work with us closer. Deliverables on requests we've been asking for will have a better turn time. Some sites already doing this type of community development are very successful.
For example - many balk at $4 per month. This price per month is competitive. Xanga's becoming a blog hosting site, rather than a blogging community site. A subtle take on words, but a big difference in terms of business model. They want to bring what is good about the current site, and take it to the next level - not just do the same thing over and over again.
With 2.0 - we can add an online store to our blogs through a plugin. We can sell our own art, our own books, our own ebooks, t-shirts... whatever it is you'd like to sell. If you're big on advertising and you have an audience that advertisers want to buy in on... you can have your own ad units for your blog - besides google adsense. You can offset the $4 per month cost rather easily in any of those options.
The community aspect of Xanga is the people, but let's look at the current platform on how easy it is to friend and subscribe to people. To connect to anyone easily, and to keep up on their blog posts and updates - and commenting and interacting... this provides a blog with an audience - and with an audience base that can provide the traction for a blog to really take off.
Now, I've shared that they've always wanted our involvement before - but now they will have the tools to make it happen. The Ideas section of the current site was established to provide a feedback loop for better service and deliverables. However, the platform itself was the biggest challenge in making these concepts a reality. So, change the platform so you can serve your customers better.
Is this something I would invest in? Absolutely! Or I wouldn't be so passionate about it.
The xanga team has the vision, the rest of us xangans have the talent and ability - and by working together we can really make this thing happen.
The reality is I'm investing in our community - as these are the tools that we've been asking for. Not only am I investing for these tools, I'm seeing the vision on how 2.0 can benefit people that are already here.
In any business, non-profit or for-profit, a company has to have a vision and a sense of direction. Personally I think this past year or two thexangateam has been trying to get a handle on its vision and direction for the site. It's a lot of pride swallowing and planning. I would suspect that when the servers went down in Jersey in december - it was a serious wake up call as well.
What's past is past, and we have to focus on what is here and now. If past performance is any indication of future potential - I see a website that has done well overall during it's 14 year span. I would invest in the overall history and in our community in a heart beat.
Thank you again for your response, much appreciated.
I'll try to keep my reply short, as my intent is not to pound this into the dirt. If I didn't want Xanga to survive, there'd be no logical (or mature, for that matter) reason to continue griping... I'd just close my account and move on.
So, just to hit each point briefly- No one, myself included, is doubting that Autisable is about support for that community, not money. However, wouldn't it better serve that community to move it to where all members of said community can reach the support of others, regardless of their financial status? To you, to me, $4 a month isn't much at all. But that's not the case with everyone. Won't moving Autisable to a paid-blogging venue actually limit the access, instead of increase it? (Yes, I am aware that people will still be able to comment, but there's therapy in writing, and who wants to write blog-length ventings on someone else's blog, especially when that someone else is having to pay for their site?)
As for Xanga's longevity... they made a lot of money in a relatively short time. They got big real quick. With enough money, even a poorly managed company can last. Dude who won the Powerball in Virginia, some 930 million dollars if I remember correctly... he's completely broke now. One could say he was successful, in that he gave a lot back to the community, he acquired some fabulous cars, etc. All the earmarks of success... except he's broke now because, despite the initial success, he managed it poorly and has since lost it all. That a co-founder went somewhere else, and created another site is no credit to the initial site's management.
You say that 14 years is an incredible run for a site that hasn't been upgraded too much. Okay, but they were close to, if not thee premier blogging site for a very long time. So all I get from that is a begged question. Why weren't there upgrades, especially needed ones, when money wasn't an issue?
Wouldn't I pour my heart and soul into....
Yes. That's precisely the root of my problem. I absolutely would pour my heart and soul into something... and doing so would be a lot more evident. If what I'd worked so hard for was at risk, I'd be doing a lot more reaching out. I'd hate all the questions that are being asked that I've already answered in even my initial post, but this thing had my heart and soul... so I'd take the time to answer them again. And again. And again, if necessary. While this thing that was created, with my heart and soul, was being injured by errant and asinine comments ("They're just gonna take the money and run") I'd be right there defending myself. I might have a lot on my plate trying to build the move, and make the new site so it's ready to launch on the projected date, and I know I wouldn't be able to be here constantly... but I bet I'd find more time than three posts in three weeks. I know for sure I would have made time, above anything else, for the initial day or two of the fundraising launch. Basically, I'd get out there and let people know this really meant something to me. If I couldn't personally do it (the team has been referred to as a bunch of introverts) I'd find someone who wasn't, and I'd have them making a presence.
I'll reiterate that I love Xanga, that I'll dearly miss it when I do go (I've pledged, a rather hefty sum at that- but I don't foresee the funding goal being met), and I sincerely hope that they succeed in their goal...
But I need to see more from them that they...THEY...care about this. To date: utter fail
And this being your blog, I'll leave the last word to you.
Good luck to Xanga, good luck to Autisable, and thank you for all your work to assist in the transition.
@Ghillies_guide - Thank you again for your encouragement and insight. I rather like the fact that there are folks who don't follow blindly and actually provide a decent thoughtful response. It is appreciated.
In regards to autisable, we're taking serious notes. It's still a small site, and most of the content there is syndicated from over 400 bloggers and organizations not blogging on the site itself. We don't have the userbase of Xanga, so there is some flexibility on what we can do - with little reprocussions.
I have passed the concept along of a pay to blog model to several of our syndicated bloggers, and it's been a surprisingly positive level of response, with many seriously considering the idea.
We're taking notes on ideas from xanga's upgrade and promotional efforts, and I want to take some of the best and well received ideas and look at applying them to Autisable.
Personally I don't mind the $4 a month concept, and with future promotions we already have in the works, along with some of these ideas presented here, Autisable will benefit rather well. The expected ROI from what I see will be significant enough for me to possible move into doing that full time, rather than part time for little money.
I see your investment in the fundraiser as not only to Xanga, but also to Autisable - as these upgrades will hopefully be worked into Autisable in the weeks and months ahead.
Thanks again for your response.
@bloggicus_maximus - what if they wanted to bring on folks like you and me to make it happen? You're a smart individual with great ideas... why not you?
would you hire yourself to get this restarted?
They're already working with Myxldove and I on expanding in social media - twitter, facebook, and we're currently getting a pinterest account established. After that a Youtube account. Instagram and other social media accounts are being looked into, but it's one step at a time.
They know they've missed out on several things, but they are working with us already in improving things.
It will take some time. Will it be too late? I don't think so. I think the timing could've been better - obviously - but we don't live in a perfect world. But it's very do able and will require some serious work.
My compensation for all of this is what will happen to Autisable. I have several promotions already in the works, many working with local theaters and national autism organizations nationwide, and Xanga will benefit as a by product of one national campaign that will promote Autisable to over 120 million people nationwide. Another promotional campaign that will reach out to over 50 million people utilizing Roku and Xbox 360 and other smartTV's. Do I discuss the details of these promotions yet? no, but I will when we're ready.
I'm very excited for Autisable, because not only what it is currently doing, but what we are planning to do for it. Much of what Xanga is doing with Xanga 2.0 will benefit Autisable in major ways. But beyond that, it will benefit significantly people that are already here.
I agree that Xangateam needs some serious help in terms of talent and marketing. I think, however, we can help significantly in that area where we are now. We may differ in opinion, but I think that's where our strength resides.
Thanks again for your response.
@edlives - You couldn't pay me enough to work for xanga. I'm not interested in working under a bunch of people who ran this site into the ground the first time around.
@Ghillies_guide - Exactly.
@bloggicus_maximus - who said working 'for' xanga... I said working 'with' xanga
@edlives - Not for free. I'm turning down paid work because I don't have the time. I'm not going to even consider unpaid freelancing at this point.
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