August 12, 2015
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The Summer Slow Down
It happens every year in the middle of the August.
Beautiful weather, everyone is outside enjoying that thing called life, and we experience what many call, "The Summer Slow Down."
Being on Xanga and blogging for over a decade I've seen it so often that you can actually plan for it.
It's also a great time to gear things up for the fall and winter. A good time to relaunch sites and tweak them. In short, it's a good time to work behind the scenes while getting ready for when everyone is back to the regular year-round routine.
On a personal note, I've been officially unemployed for about a year and a half. Yep, I don't get paid for doing things on Xanga. My aim on this blog and being a point person for the community is all about, well, the community.
So, while I'm dealing with home repair, getting Autisable back on track and being the husband and father I need to be.... I'm still trying to keep tabs on Xanga. I'm also looking for work.
Since it's been awhile since I've made a Xanga related post - here's one to share while we are in the midst of the summer slow down.
Now, there's a lot going on behind the scenes with the Xanga team. A lot going on with Eugenia and John and Marc. But it's really not my place to share things that I have no permission or direction in sharing. Things that are of a personal nature I leave for each of the xanga team members to share. Things as they relate to Xanga I share after making sure I have it confirmed with John and/or Eugenia.
What I can say is that Eugenia is keeping tabs and following up with e-mails ( at 'help@xanga.net') and is continually helping folks out with their accounts. I can say that Marc is as he's always been with the Team, a bit off to the side while John and everyone else is working on the servers and addressing themes. For the longest time it was Marc who I've been in touch with regarding Autisable's mission and direction.... with some consultation with John.
Some have chided the team, or me for that matter, in leading people in the wrong direction and taking peoples money.
Allow me to share something on this note, while we are in the midst of the summer slow down....
Two years ago we were looking at Xanga completely folding. This means that there would have been absolutely no service for our blogs to remain. By raising funds as a community, we were able to salvage what remains of Xanga, and provide a platform and servers for the site to continue. This has still allowed people, even two years later, to retrieve their archives (for free). It has also allowed anyone with a Xanga account to still either blog on Xanga (for $4 per month) or blog elsewhere. This could not have been possible if it wasn't for everyone helping.
Several people who have lost their loved ones who blogged on Xanga regularly, are still able to seek access to their loved ones accounts. This is something one cannot put a price tag on, and providing a sense of peace in that area of a persons life is very important.
Personally, I still see the ROI of doing $4 per month on Xanga compared to a free wordpress site.
Over the next several months I will be shifting my focus onto Autisable a bit more, as is to be expected.
I'm already working with a good team, and we are collaborating with John and the Xanga team on making Autisable it's own company in the near future. Again, as expected.
That being said, I want to reassure you that I'm still blogging on Xanga, and will still be a community liaison.
I've shared all of our concerns to the Xanga team, specifically to John. It is up to him and the team to respond accordingly.
As things move forward, I'm sure you know that I will keep everyone informed either way.
So as we get close to the end of summer, let's be hopeful of what is to come.
Until later, back to the grind.
Comments (19)
"Two years ago we were looking at Xanga completely folding."
There is a software service that is running called "Xanga 2", and it also happens to be able to host blogs for those who wish to pay for that privilege, but let's not kid ourselves that this is a continuation of Xanga 1- that community and social network absolutely did fold 2 years ago for all intent and purposes.
"By raising funds as a community, we were able to salvage what remains of Xanga, and provide a platform and servers for the site to continue. This has still allowed people, even two years later, to retrieve their archives (for free). "
Archives were made available ever since it was announced that services could be ending- any frequent user had more than enough time to download their archives. Perhaps if TeamXanga had sent out a user splash page such as they have now informing people of the situation, there would not be as many people blindsided and needing to get their archives after the fact.
"It has also allowed anyone with a Xanga account to still either blog on Xanga (for $4 per month) or blog elsewhere."
With our archived data, we were already able to make a transfer to free WordPress or Blogspot without the need for funding.
"Several people who have lost their loved ones who blogged on Xanga regularly, are still able to seek access to their loved ones accounts. This is something one cannot put a price tag on, and providing a sense of peace in that area of a persons life is very important."
While the above benefit is nice, let's be perfectly clear about one thing - "Xanga 2" was heavily promoted by TeamXanga and yourself to be a superior successor to Xanga. It was NOT EVER billed as a holding repository of past blogs of loved ones or a retrieval service.
Why not mention all the social network and blogging features it's supposed to have, but doesn't? Trying to use secondary features as justification is not a satisfactory explanation or excuse.
"Personally, I still see the ROI of doing $4 per month on Xanga compared to a free wordpress site."
That may be fine for you, but for the majority of folks, as evidenced by the exodus of of people who initially signed up as well as those who remain, this is not the case.
As for you, I challenge you to defend your statement by comparing the features of free WordPress and current Xanga and show how Xanga is worth $4/mo compared to free WP. Current Xanga has a near zero social network, no access to outside blogs, no means of contacting users who have locked their blogs, no search features to find active users or recent blogs- all of which free WP has, and yet for you, it's worth the $4/mo fee to blog in a virtual wasteland.
"A lot going on with Eugenia and John and Marc. But it's really not my place to share things that I have no permission or direction in sharing."
What does this have to do with failing to post a response to my set of questions about the status of Xanga's plan - or making any updates for that matter since Feb? When is it justifiable to take people's money and decide to keep them in the dark for months AGAIN and AGAIN despite being told this was a problem? Is this or is this not a professional business that owns up to obligations? Why are you making excuses for their unacceptable actions? As a liaison, you are supposed to represent BOTH parties not just one. What about all the remaining users who were expecting was was promised about having a superior social network with the same look and feel as Xanga 1 that have now been waiting TWO YEARS?.
"I've shared all of our concerns to the Xanga team, specifically to John. It is up to him and the team to respond accordingly."
And this is the main problem - John knows people what to know what the software update timeline is restore social services, but there are no updates even after being asked again and again, so that's the answer- and quite a rude one, especially to the folks who bought multiple memberships to help meet the pledge drive.
Why come to people and ask for money with a set of promises- then disappear after the money has been collected and people have questions? There's no other way to describe that except shady.
It's 2 years and counting with no social services even remotely close to Xanga 1.0 or any modest social networking site. This is really just a memorial service to what Xanga was rather than anything close to its rebirth.
@Soullfire:
Between all the back and forth regarding the delay of me approving this comment, I wanted to make sure I wrapped my head around every sentence and paragraph a bit more than just a cursory response. Hence me hiding your original comment for a period of time.
I didn't want people to jump on the band wagon in responding until after I had some time to really look at what you are trying to say. This does happen in some situations, but it doesn't mean I will delete or censor your opinion. I wanted to take an opportunity, while I could, to manage an answer without people interjecting things into the conversation that I haven't had time to think about a proper response.
I've sent you an e-mail privately to discuss further some of your statements in your comment. I'd be happy to discuss some things more via phone or skype. Please let me know if that is of interest to you and it will be good to proceed.
In regards to defend my statement comparing the features of the free wordpress and current xanga - I still stand by what I said.
I've made a blog post awhile back regarding a cost breakdown between using free wordpress and spending $4 per month using Xanga. Also, for people who actually assist the team on making the site better, the cost is not applicable. (so, for what I'm doing - I'm blogging for free on Xanga. That's my only 'compensation' from the team). The opportunity is there for others to do the same. John and Marc said early on that there is still potential for a level of free blogging to be on xanga in the future, so that's not out of the picture entirely. And of course, anyone is welcome to blog elsewhere.
I will say again that I've agreed with you time and time again. As a person who is attempting to remain neutral on this matter I have to balance a fine line of where I place my own criticism on issues as well.
The reason I have been placed as a liaison is because I've shared very similar concerns as yours towards John, and pushed for us to receive better communication and status updates.
If I express a frustration as equal as yours or Cool Monkey or others openly, where will that leave those who do not feel the same way? It seems, however, that I have been inadequate in balancing some issues. Apologies if it has appeared one-sided on that note. Hey, I can be frustrated as well. I'm in the middle of this - and yes by choice - but in the middle. I see a bit more on both sides of the issues than most.
To Xanga Team I express my frustrations and challenges from the community. To the community I share what is going on from the team.
You and I are addressing the same issues, the same challenges... but we both handle these situations differently.
You tend to tackle things a bit more head-on, and openly. I still tackle the same issues, but do so with a different type of tact. But our goals remain the same.
I try to remain neutral, but as you can see, it can be difficult....
On one side we have all the questions and concerns on what is going on with the site because we are NOT receiving the updates as expected or promised. (yes, I know)
On the other side, I get some level of updates from John and the team on what is going on with the site and know what the goal is down the road that they are aiming for...
Yes, it's been two years. Yes something needs to be done. And yes, it's going slowly.
Personally I'm frustrated because I've been putting myself out there for over two years in getting things done. So my name and reputation is out there to be judged.
I'm grateful for the team because they were able to keep Autisable afloat, and have been highly supportive of the autism community. Now that Autisable is relaunched and I have another team that will take over that site, I still have an obligation to make sure Xanga owes up to its promise.
I don't always express my own opinions, as I want to make sure I'm getting your unbiased opinions. I don't want to sway you one way or another.
However, that being said, I do ask that although we do get frustrated - we still maintain respect and compassion for one another.
And by Compassion and Understanding I mean that we try to put ourselves in each others shoes, and treat each other with kindness.
I have to admit that some of your comments were rather harsh towards me. But after reflecting on them I can see your perspective, and can appreciate them. But still, I think we can work on that area a bit more... (and I'm preaching to me as I am sharing that with you).
Happy to get your feedback, and request again for your hands be put into this so you and I can work together on getting the message across to John.
Thankss for the encoragement. I keep hoping this will work out well. I am sorry you have been out of work so long. That has to be tough.
Wishing you the best, and you are in my prayers.
frank
Strange how my comment made yesterday is no longer viewable. Is censorship the latest update to features?
Here's the thing though - many people keep asking for a simple update. Even if nothing is going on. While having a community liason is in itself a good idea, if the unpaid volunteer is the ONLY contact a userbase has with it's leadership, people start to question what's going on. They start to wonder if it's a scam, especially when money is involved. I know to a lot of people an average of $4 a month doesn't sound like much. But the $4 a month is demanded as a solid one-time payment. While this is convenient for the people receiving the payment, it may not be so for the person giving the payment. Having a much simpler way of making the payment than the hoops users have to jump through would also encourage people to be willing to pay that $48 in one bulk, or to even OFFER a pay by the month option woul also be good. For some, that $48 may mean they have to choose between do they get to blog on Xanga or do they get to see their doctor? Do they get to blog on Xanga, or does the college student get to eat that month? This is one of the major problems, and again the jumping through hoops that is required is honestly just too much for most people.
It's all well and good to hear from you that there's a lot of work going on behind the scenes, but honestly how hard is it to ask for someone, ANYONE from the team to take 5 minutes out of their day to make ONE post on thexangateam blog? Again, even if there's nothing going on for six months to a year, even just SEEING there's someone paying attention, and even just typing something in like "Hey folks, nothing new to report." will instil and reinforce user confidence in the product and service.
You yourself are a busy man, and to have to carry the entirety of communication for the userbase to the leadership is honestly too much to ask. Everyone has lives, everyone has non-Xanga related obligations in those lives. Even the Xanga team themselves.
But the fact remains - the community that came together to save Xanga feels they are being shafted, through no fault of your's I assure you, but by the sheer fact that there is the great divide that the unpaid volunteer cannot possibly hope to bridge simply because you're just the liason, and NOT the official leadership. Even in real-world situations business owners know they need to occasionally put in a public appearance to their worker bees to instill confidence in them. Even if it's just at the company Christmas party or picnic, or a 5 minute walkthrough on the factory floor as a publicity stunt.
You're NOT John, Eugenia, Mark, or any other official member of Xanga, therefore your appearance has a limited effect on the userbase that sadly is losing confidence in the service and product. Observations have been made that some of the official Xanga people don't even bother updating their OWN blogs. Again, how can this instill confidence in a product when the people who actually work on it don't use it?
The community itself is losing interest and the ball has been sitting in thexangateam's court for quite a long time now. It's my personal opinion that if they don't do something, again even just clear 5 minutes to type a single sentence on their official channels of communication THEMSELVES, then I fear what's left of the community will find better uses for that $48/yr and $4/mnth.
Liasons can only do so much, Joel. And you do a great job, honestly. But it's the leadership that needs to step up to bat sometimes to get the crowd cheering and roaring again. And in this they've been lacking for the last 6 months-2 years.
Thank you for your response, and encouragement. I agree with much of what you said.
@SoullFire: no, I just hid it for the time being so I can review it fully later.
With all your criticism, I have yet to hear you actually put some work to something constructive on Xanga. Until you do, your responses will be reviewed at my discretion, and then after review will be responded to accordingly.
I have little time to devote to any more of your criticism as everything has already been passed onto John. No further commentary from you is requested or required until john responds as you originally asked.
@edlives: This is brilliant. Xanga fails to follow up with their promises, and yet the onus is on me for daring to voice the concerns many people are having.
Do you understand the definition of censorship? I have a right to complain about services not rendered. Hiding my response until "later review" is CENSORSHIP.
So your solution to my complaints to is just tell me to shut up and go away- is that it?
Why do you keep asking people what are THEY doing to help when they offer valid complaints? What can they possibly do when the software is dysfunctional? What are YOU doing to get the software working? You preface all your statement with "I don't work at Xanga" as a shield of liability. Well, neither do I.
I guess Kamikaze Zealot or any one else better keep in line and not express any more complaints right?
"No further commentary from you is requested or required until john responds as you originally asked."
Nope no censorship going on here at all. Move along folks...nothing to see here...
@soullfire: For two years you've been saying the same thing over and over.
I've shared time and again your concerns to John and the team, along with everyone else's concerns.
I've agreed with you countless times, more than disagreed.
I've reached out to you from the beginning asking if you'd actually like to put hands to the work to make things better.
The door on that matter has remained opened.
You refuse on all counts, and sit and are critical on all issues.
I've shared with you again and again that I've given all information and ideas to john that you've asked.
Still yet you are critical.
In your criticism you lack compassion and understanding.
In your criticism you lack action, even when it has been asked of you.
I am doing what I am saying I am doing.
I have done what I'd set out to do, and am continuing my efforts in doing it.
All I read and hear from you is what the team should be doing.
I am not disagreeing with you on many of your points.
I read regularly in your comments and your blog on a serious level of criticism of my own actions. Even on those issues I make note and let you say your peace. After all, it is your point of view.
My review of your comments is to make sure I review them and answer them with respect.
The fact that I choose to hide them prior to them displaying them on my blog is my choice.
I have a long history on Xanga for not censoring people on my blog. That history will continue. The fact that I am delaying your comment because I want to read it first is giving priority in my responses.
Thank you again for your response. I will respond to your initial comment and post both once I get to it.
@edlives:
You are clearly changing your policy as you have never stated all comments will be held for review/response before posting. And actually you are still allowing comments to be posted before you respond, just not the one I submitted. So yes, you are censoring my comments and also discriminating against me as you are singling out which comments to hide "for later review at your discretion".
For two years, the condition of Xanga has remained largely the same. As progress and updates failed to happen - I voiced concerns, which you regard as complaints. So are you saying that one shouldn't keep noting problems when nothing changes in the way of major progress or even the simplest continual update as to what is going on?
You do a good job at blaming the victim. Cool Monkey, Skanlyn, myself and anyone else who rightfully voices concerns, are just castigated as "troublemakers/whiners". Meanwhile, very little if anything changes.
You claim you've reached out to me to offer to help to make things better, and that I've refused. What does that even mean? Again, the software is dysfunctional and needs updating. John or some Xanga employee needs to update people here on a regular basis as to what the status and schedule is. What can anyone do to improve things outside of Xanga employees?
It's like we're in Bizarro world where everything is reversed. When you take your car to the shop for repairs and never get any status on progress despite a long time passing- do you just sit idly by for as long as it takes and say nothing, or do you ask for an update? What if no updates come after that- do you remain silent then, or do you ask again? I think you will continue to ask until you get some answers right?
Now they ask you why do you keep asking the same question over and over, and what are YOU doing to help. Does that make sense to you? Putting the burden on people who are complaining about the state of the software and no updates is equally absurd.
Why should we not remain critical when we don't even get the courtesy of simple periodic updates of the schedule and status?
I level criticism at you as well, because you are NOT acting as a liaison, but a defender of their actions. Rather than remain neutral and just pass on information, or state none is available, you justify their actions by saying they are personal issues to attend, or some other reason as to why we get no response month after month after month.
What does "compassion" or "understanding" have to do with not getting any kind of response to updates for over 6 months that shortly followed a previous blackout that lasted over a YEAR? Yet, you're labeling me as the bad person in this.
No one can win with you- if they remain silent- nothing happens. If they complain periodically because nothing is happening they get branded as non team players not willing to help- although how they could help is anyone's guess.
How many more YEARS do we wait before we are allowed to post additional concerns? Meanwhile - better keep that $48/yr coming if you want to continue blogging- no allowances for delays on that...
Let me ask you two questions before we continue this discussion:
1 - What would you do if you were in my position?
and
2 - would you actually do it?
@edlives:
The fact is I have been in your position when I had to represent a company to the customer and the company had a lack of information that the customer had been patiently waiting for, but was growing restless/angry with delays.
Here's what I DIDN'T do- I didn't harangue the customer about the continuing to request for updates or complain. I didn't tell them that I would take their issue stated off the broadcast email distribution until I could "respond" regardless of how many times the question was asked or how critical it was.
I didn't try to turn it back on the customer and ask them what they are doing to help the situation- a response like that would trigger them cancelling a contract looking for another vendor and I would be in serious hot water with my job in jeopardy.
Here's what I did do:
1) Acknowledge the customers concern.
2) Assure them that I will take their message and get an answer for them ASAP. I make it a point that I will be taking the lead on this and will update as soon as possible and keep them alerted to my progress in getting a timely answer.
3)I go and request the answers they seek and I represent the customers concern especially if they are justified rather than go silent and wait until the customer complains again. I am proactive.
4) If I hit a roadblock with management not giving answers, I reiterate to them that the customer has been waiting patiently for an extended time and we HAVE to provide them with some information as a show of good faith.
5) In the very rare event that I can't get any answers from management, I ask them to talk to the customer directly along with me to explain the situation and hear the customer out, and inform the customer about this as well to set up a meeting.
I've never experienced a situation where management refused to update a customer directly and left them hanging indefinitely. That behavior loses customers. If I did, I would maintain my neutrality rather than making up any excuses since I'm just a go between. I would do everything I could to get some type of timely response to keep the customer happy. I would not make light of or dismiss the customer's concerns as "constant whining" and own up to the fact that we are dropping the ball and we should be doing better.
To date in over two years I have yet to hear you fully acknowledge that Xanga is the one with the problems. Instead - it's "We're in transition, progress is happening, they are busy,...etc"
That can only work so long until people want actual answers instead of indirect excuses from a non employee.
If you are passing these request for updates on to them, what is their response, and what are you doing to help "persuade" than that what they are doing is killing the last bit bit of good will for remaining users as well as everyone else who contributed money based on the promises made by both YOU and Xanga?
Thanks.
Now, would you like to chat via phone or skype about your other comments? I sent you an e-mail.
@edlives: As you have repeated, you don't work at Xanga, and are waiting for one of the Xanga employees to respond.
What would be the point taking this offline when the person when it's Xanga we need to hear from?
I am only voicing the concern of most folks here who have been waiting patiently. As such wouldn't the response be better suited here rather than offline?
Now if you wish to set up a meeting with one of the Xanga employees, I'd be more than happy to hear them out offline.
Yes, but many of your comments are directed at me personally. Also, some of your ideas regarding updates to the site may work well for autisable, so I'd like to discuss those things. And those issues don't include Xanga.
For what it's worth, I think I am getting my money's worth on Xanga. Granted, free sounds nicer, and this may not be what other sites are, but I don't want what other sites have. Here I can privately record my thoughts, experiences, photos, etc., get replies from friends and have conversations. That is all I need really from this site; Improvements would just be a bonus (or an added distraction from what it is now). I would be willing to pay the fee again next year to stay here, even if no changes are made.
I know I am probably in the minority, or perhaps not, and it's just the ones who want more who are more verbal, but I wanted to show that not everyone is upset with, or disappointed with Xanga.
I am actually glad that some of the riff-raff and childish drama left two years ago when this became a paying site. I am thankful I still have years worth of blogs to look back on, and a small group of good people with whom I keep in touch with here nearly every day.
Thank you. It's good to hear another perspective.
I have heard others who have expressed a similar point of view as well.
@edlives: Thanks for posting and responding to my initial comment.
I understand the situation you are in- as someone who is working with Xanga on another project (Autisable), you have to moderate between complaints/concerns coming from users without being able to join in with raising any pitchforks.
Like I said, I've been in similar positions so I can commiserate with the balancing act needed and the difficulty that goes with it.
Since I also work in systems and software, and have operate in all the stages of SW design and release, with that comes expectations of what information we should be receiving from Xanga during this time.
I admit my comments have been increasing in directness, but that is in response to the continued lack of company feedback. I've had customers respond mush worse over relative minor delays. Considering the length of delays we are experiencing, I rate my responses as fairly tame.
I'm looking at the timeline of activities, and from a business standpoint, Xanga continues to shoot itself which reduces any hope of reclaiming the old community. It didn't appear anyone was all that concerned with the time dragging out which added to my frustration.
I understand problems can arise with SW or personnel that can lead to delays, but transparency is key in maintaining good relations.
If they were still a free service, they would have every right to run it as they see fit, but when they had a pledge drive and started charging for services, they became a true professional business and along with that have new responsibilities.
My blogs have centered on economics and business injustice, so Xanga's lack of adequate updates after holding a pledge drive easily got my attention.
So what do you do when you believe you are witnessing someone destroy something everyone thought was special and no one seems all that concerned? The follow up response tends to get increasingly loud and sharp, which is what I and some others have done.
To be honest, I never dreamed we would be in a situation of virtual abandonment where the company is absent save for a few updates to someone that doesn't directly work for them. It seems surreal that a company that created such a prior good product, shared its concerns with the group with a request for donations, would not understand the need to keep everyone in the loop as to the schedule timeline and status, with the current SW in such a bad state. It's been said it feels like a betrayal, and I would have to agree. I mean, no updates for an entire year? It's unreal!
So when I feel you are defending their actions, you become them by proxy and my critique on what I consider indefensible actions may catch you in the crossfire.
Without getting an update, clearly we can all assume they've run into unanticipated issues which is causing these delays.
I expect no more from you or Xanga that I would of myself if I were in a similar situation - just tell it like it is. My ire is raised when I feel we the customer are being disrespected with a refusal to honor promised commitments and whenever complaints are voiced- you appear to represent Xanga's interests way more than those of the customers. I apologize if I seem overly harsh, but I feel it's important to make clear that the customers were sold on new features and services that have so far not materialized. I know you were just repeating what you were told by Xanga, but I'm sure you can understand the frustration when we were sold on a luxury building, only to get a leaky fixer upper for an extended time, and neither you nor Xanga seemed willing to address the disconnect of where we are relative to what was promised.
I realize you have agreed with most of my critiques, but until Xanga responds as they said they would, its a broken feedback loop.
IMO, they would have been far better off keeping the old software and charging for that instead....just make some type of premium sub mandatory. Then have the fundraiser to pay for the renewal of the lease area where the servers were held, which is what prompted the action in the first place.
@soullfire: thanks for understanding my position, and I completely understand your frustration.
Glad we were able to sort out our differences and find some common ground.
Considering your background and history, along with your perspectives, the door remains open for either Xanga or Autisable - as far as I'm concerned.
Again, thank you. Waking up this morning and seeing this comment made a nice start to the day.
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